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Don Spak's avatar

Embarrassingly, as a father myself, I can’t help but ask… Why are there not more MAHA dads? While I understand traditional nurturing/cultural roles, men should stand and defend against anything that attacks the family. A dad can’t remain disengaged while his family is slowly poisoned. Keep up the great work ladies and bring the rest of us along.

Michelle Dostie's avatar

I think most Dad’s are instinctively the protectors of their homes and families. The mothers have been given a different role, just as strong, but maybe requiring more attention and intuition or study.

Dr Phillip Chalmers's avatar

We, the dads, are taking the hard knocks fighting in the arena that this woman is disparaging.

It is a pity there was not more account taken of, or acknowledgement given to complementarity.

What mothers can do is different from what dads can do.

Call to mind. Huge pollution of urban and suburban air by the use of petrol and diesel passenger and freight vehicles; the use of plastic packaging of foods and drinks; the additives in processed foods and condiments; the long storage of what began as fresh fruit and vegetables, the use of antibiotics and agricultural chemicals in the feed for animals which provide the meat protein ... and the list goes on.

If it is not considered a joint venture, with mutual respect for each parental role and sphere of interest, then more strife is generated and the task fails.

C Short's avatar

Moms are the last line of defense and when we fail our children suffer or die as happened to my once healthy and creative 19 year old. You can't trust the system, trust your instincts and find those that will believe and support your efforts to help your kids. I blame myself everyday even though I am now realizing what I was up against. I hope to find a way to help others not join the devastating club I have joined.

JollyLittlePerson's avatar

Sorry for your loss. How terrible.

David Bethea's avatar

Imo: 🎯🎯🎯. Family, and moms, know best.

Daniel Beegan's avatar

Too many MAHA moms have bought into the anti science lies of the anti vaccine movement. We've already seen kids dying because of the resurgence of measles. Are diptherya, whooping cough and polio next?

Dr Phillip Chalmers's avatar

Already happening Daniel.

Dennis Samuel's avatar

Do you think MAHA moms understand cultural restoration better than non-MAHA moms?

I think first we have to define what MAHA means. I think everyone has a different take on what it means. I think sometimes MAHA is always pitted against science. And as a physician myself, I don’t think we need to dissociate the two that way. And I think the main reason why is we don’t really have a great standard definition on what MAHA means.

Daisy Mae Inglese's avatar

It’s a good point - think the MAHA moms come on a spectrum 😂 My response to your comment however is that I don’t think its always “anti-science” it is anti the over medicalisation that occurs, which brings a whole heap of other issues with it. Science doesn’t always require over-medicalisation.

Dennis Samuel's avatar

Certainly I agree with over medicalization. But from my perspective, I actually argue that it’s specific MAHA influencers on social media that actually overly medicalize things compared to most physicians that I work with.

For example, the folks who push a carnivore diet end up pulling out studies that are weakly performed, have intrinsic methodological issues and bias - and using those studies to advocate that people should be on a carnivore diet. So i think the medicalization aspect is not a unique thing to physicians. But i argue everyone is doing that. Everyone is trying to sell their story.

I think the answer should be as physicians is to present data appropriately. Discuss its strengths and limitations. And then come up with a practical plan with shared decision making with the patient.

I don’t get the sense that the people who are leading the MAHA movement can sit and wrestle with counter-points. But it’s become a movement that leads to division, rather than unity.

And I think part of the problem is really defining what MAHA is - who are the players? What are their values? How are those values expected to play out practically? Etc.

Dr Phillip Chalmers's avatar

Dennis, do you dare to treat fatness, obesity and gross obesity as an issue of moral responsibility with the women in your practice, or are you agreeing with the meme, that obesity is a disease?

Every candid camera video of US folk I see reveals a very high proportion of the folk walking about are really fat women and men and children and I never ever see the like when I am in public in Australia.

And, as an experienced physician, you cannot possibly align yourself with some of the absurd ideas within the MAHA movement. The concept is laudable, the movement is filled with all sorts of nonsense and errors, deriving from the idiosyncratic mindset of Robert Kennedy Jr

Eugine Nier's avatar

The problem is that these days The Science™ has been taken over by DIE, various other leftists, and other malignant actors.

Orenv's avatar

Government is uncaring and always subject to the influence of those seeking to make money. There is always someone willing to sacrifice YOUR children to further THEIR income. It reminds me of the story about how the silicon valley types didn't let their kids have IPads.

Karma Kshetra's avatar

What also will help is building MAHA large families - especially close knit three generations (children, parents, grandparents) living close-by, if not together, so that the traditional wisdom gets passed on and also the Moms are supported better. Society has to come together.

Celia M Paddock's avatar

MAHA didn't start in 2020. It started with 'crunchies'--who were largely liberals--in the 1960s. It was only Covid that brought conservatives into the movement.

Dr Phillip Chalmers's avatar

Best stick to facts, it is post-modern and bizarre